Gibson is planning a major change to the entire Epiphone guitar line-up

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  1. Paruwi

    Paruwi Kraut-Rocker Staff Member

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    Cesar Gueikian heralds overhaul to bring mid-priced guitars closer to Gibson models

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    Despite a PR misfire or two, Gibson has had a positive 2019, overhauling its entire range and bringing it in closer in line with what guitarists actually want - and a surprise statement from CMO Cesar Gueikian indicates there could be good news for Epiphone fans, too.

    In a recent Instagram post, Gueikian shared a picture of a host of classic Gibson and Epiphone electric guitar parts, including scratchplates, pickup selector rings and vintage Epiphone headstocks.

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    Paruwi Kraut-Rocker Staff Member

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    Gibson to make sloped dovewing headstocks standard on Epiphone guitars


    By Jonathan Horsley (Guitarist, Total Guitar) 2 hours ago Guitars

    "It's coming" says Gibson CMO Cesar Gueikian

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    In a move that would bring Epiphone's electric guitar designs further in line with parent company Gibson, the hugely popular sloped dovewing headstock is to be rolled out as standard.

    Gibson CMO Cesar Gueikian was replying to a comment on his Instagram post of yesterday, 12 September, when he confirmed – or let slip – that the move was underway.

    Gueikian was in Nashville, going through the archives, and posted a picture of all kinds of vintage Gibson and Epiphone ephemera, including a rubber knee rest strip for a Flying-V, an ES-295 pickguard, some switch covers. In the mix were Epiphone sloped dovewing headstock schematics with vine inlay, as seen on vintage Sheratons.

    When Chris Woodhead, guitarist/vocalist in Philadelphia-based rock band Old Arrows, commented that all Epiphones should come with that headstock shape, Gueikian simply replied "It's coming."

    For many Epiphone fans, this was the news they have been waiting to hear. The "sloped dovewing" headstock has, of course, made a reappearance over the years. The 100th Anniversary Les Paul had one. Vintage reproductions of the Casino have one, and 2019 models such as the DC Pro and Vivian Campbell signature Les Paul have had them.

    The "sloped dovewing" headstock silhouette certainly looks cleaner. And just as importantly, a move away from the more figured but blockier Epiphone headstock that has been standard across most Epiphone models sees the brand align more aesthetically with Gibson's "open-book" headstocks.

    Some have said that in doing so they are damaging their parent brand Gibson by offering a guitar with much of its DNA at a lower price, but there is enough difference to separate them – and giving people what they want always makes good business sense. Moreover, the Flying V and Explorer headstocks were always very similar, and that never harmed the brand.

    This business model has worked for Fender, who have imbued their entry-level Squier junior brand with many a touch of vintage Leo design magic, and have celebrated their heritage across more affordable lines such as the Mexican-built Player series.

    In an age where Gibson are ever more aggressive in defending their brand, doing likewise might seem like the smart play to make.
     
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    The one concern I have is the (perceived) added length.
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    Might make finding a "fitted" case (like an SKB TSA case) more interesting.
    I'm sure they'll sell the Tolex type, but some of us like a little more protection.
     
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    I already have this problem with my dots. same guitar different years different overall length.
     
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    I just checked my G400 in its SKB 1SKB-61 TSA case and it's "in the fur". There's no way it'd work with an even longer headstock.
     
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    This change would neither steer me towards nor away from an Epiphone.
     
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    It will be interesting to see if the ""ERMAGERD that headstock makes me retch" crowd will change their tune or if they'll just find something else to hate. I like the gibson headstock better, but not enough to make me not but a guitar I like. I have 5 epis.
     
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    I'm so glad I've recently discoverd that the headstockshape doesn't improve my playing skills.....:shock:
    and it doesn't even enlarge my p€nis......:dunno:
    so I need to look for another compensation :fingersx:
     
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    Could be worse
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    Epiphone used maybe 50 or more headstock shapes ?

    The one they’ve been using was usually highly ornamented with binding and inlay. Since Gibson has been using Epiphone as an import line 1990’s??? That headstock has mostly been undersized (from the original) and unornamented, outside of the Sheraton etc.

    To my eyes the “clipped wing” shape always looks better slightly upsized and with the Binding.

    The plainer open book shape they’ve started using is a more in line with a less bling’d out headstock on an Sg or Les Paul.

    Think about it. Epiphone was making a statement with that clipped wing shape. More edges, More cuts, more Craft and artistry in creating that finished product.

    That shape just doesn’t make sense without the extra eye candy.
     
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    Why?!
     
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    Guaranteed they won't get sued?
     
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    I think this could be a good move, but I sincerely hope they decide to go with the newer design on the Les Paul Classic Worn instead.

    With that giant headstock, they are trading one issue for another. The Classic Worn version is different enough from a Gibson be seems (to me) to still be aesthetically pleasing, and won't as easily neck dive all their SG models like this new headstock:D
     
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    Can’t wait to see what they’ve got in mind.
     
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    Proprietary marketing. "Authentic" Epiphone cases only from here on out. Screw you, SKB and Roadrunner.

    I'm not really a fan of the the bulbous headstock on electrics. It was cool on that anniversary Les Paul because it was unique and different from the norm, but personally, I don't want to see it on the bulk of them. It looks too soft.
    :dude:
     
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    Raiyn Well-Known Member

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    Leave it to Gibson to screw up a simple thing that could easily have been left alone.
    Next they'll change the truss rod for a nutted design with an all but proprietary wrench - that the stores won't give you.
     
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    Word, i won't be replacing my beloved '01 Sheraton 2 anytime soon.
     
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    Bring back the giant " By Gibson" across the headstock!:thumb:
     
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    All they really had Hindi was shorten it a bit. Who knows..Maybe they will.
     

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