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Discussion in 'Epiphone Guitars' started by Royce Macintyre, Oct 6, 2018.
When I get the guitar Thursday , I 'll tear it open then post the photos .
What we've got here is conformation bias.
Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we have here in this thread, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you folks, but there are none so blind as those who will not see.
Seriously, why does it bother you so much that he bought that guitar?
The man came here asking for opinions, he got them, had a chance to look at all the evidence, then decided to pull the trigger and buy the guitar. We don't know how much it was, maybe it was just $100 or less. At that kind of a price it's worth it if it plays well.
If I had the opportunity to buy a guitar at what I felt was a good price, even if I had doubts about its authenticity, I would. And if it turned out to be a goods instrument so much the better.
You belittling him for his decision is not a nice introduction to the forum.
@Royce Macintyre . Let us know how the guitar turns out once you get it, and by all means go ahead an post the photos that Paruwi asked for, maybe we can settle the question once and forever. But remember, the only thing that matters ultimately is how YOU feel about the guitar, not others.
In reality , In my wildest dreams I would never know why someone would want to produce an Epi copy ...but evidently it happens. When I get the guitar ,if it plays well , it will get played ..that simple ...if it's a POS , I'll send it back with the details that it is a fraud .
If you've paid with paypal or via eBay you'll need to get the 'official' proof, therefor contact Gibson/Epi Customer-Service
And get this proof before filing a claim.
That is the way how buyers got their money back in the past
IIRC he bought it first and asked for opinions later
that's a big difference
We are trying to help him to get information about his guitar,
and we do it with opened eyes and with some experience and with proofs....
And I have no problem with someone coming here, asking question (pre or post sale), gets answers, maybe different opinions, and then makes up his own mind as to his next course of action. I mean we are grownups after all, and capable of making our own decisions.
What I do have a problem with is some folks deriding that decision, or making snide remarks about it.
What I have a problem with is folks encouraging others to purchase counterfeit goods while subverting advice from those who know the facts.
I had already paid for the guitar before I posted here ....Never thought of an Epi would come up fraud . I was just trying to date it . My bad for buying on line without putting my hands on it .
My problem really isn't with you.
My problem is with the seller for selling you a counterfeit Epiphone.
I do think you should have cancelled the sale when you were informed it was a fake. However, instead of listening to one of the writers of the Unofficial Epiphone Wiki and our tireless moderator, you chose to believe some random guy on another site.
You came looking for facts from people who would know and when presented with them you went looking for "evidence" (which was also fraudulent) to support the narrative you want to believe. Classic confirmation bias.
I don't blame you for that, I'd hate to be told that I'd spent good money on a fake. I'd probably do the same thing - go looking for reasons that it might be real - ultimately though I'd consider the source.
I've known Pete for a while now and he knows his sh¡t. He has better things to do than dissuade someone from buying a fake or posting Fake Alerts, but he does because he loves Epiphones and it's the right damn thing to do.
You shouldn't have a problem with me whether I bought it or not , I asked for help ..the man gave me his honest opinion . I appreciate that .... what I do from there is my business
the dood will abide...
I’m surprised no one mentioned the headstock diamond inlay. Looks funky to me, serial layout and font aside.
it's wonky as hell. i thought @Paruwi reported that was a hallmark of
some korean models, or something to that affect, so i didn't mention
I'm thinking it's just a March, 1992 from Unsung, but the font is strange?
They DIDN'T make Epiphones in Unsung in 1992
Please read the thread.