2020 TV Yellow LP Special first impressions

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  1. BGood

    BGood Well-Known Member

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    A very curious thing happened.

    Yesterday, when I got home I gave it a proper first tone test.

    Pickups were very high, but so was the action. A lot of power from the P90's, but no definition at all. I was REALLY disappointed. I compared with my other P90s and told myself I must be tired, my ears aren't working well. But no, they all sounded like good P90's and the new ones were really shitty. I'm freakin' out

    I gradually adjust the P90's down, but I never find what I expected. Fvck ! I can't believe it's because of the strings, usually described as horrible on a new Epiphone. They play OK.

    I'm going to lower the bridge anyway, it's uncomfortable even for a test, really. 1½ complete turn on both bridge post ! Yes, it was THAT high. It might even go down a bit more tomorrow, but it'll do for now.

    I've lowered the action so much that the bridge P90 is literally stuck to the strings. I readjust the pickups down, I plug it in ... the sky opens and the angels sing!

    What was that ?
    I'm ecstatic.

    How is it that a too high bridge influences the tone so much, even with the pickups adjusted at the same distance from strings?

    By the way, unplugged, this one really resonates in the mids.
     
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    Second impressions ...

    Apart from action and pickups badly needing attention, only two tiny negatives.

    One of the knobs was loose on the shaft (I'm surprised it was still on it). Easily remedied.
    I'm not a fan of those tiny top hats, they're too slippery for my big hands.

    Frets are well done. The ends would profit from a little smoothing but it is comfortable to play as is. I only feel it when I run a fingertip on them. 3 frets were a tad high, really not much. I tapped them down. One remains a micron high but doesn't affect playing at all, so it'll stay like that.

    The new P90 Pro are great. I'd say a little more aggressive than the previous model.
    Intonation is 100% spot on.
    Fit and finish is all-around pretty good, nothing specific stands out.
    The neck ... that neck is sublime. Really nice 50's rounded shape. THE main reason why I got this guitar.

    It rounds up the P90 harem. The chase has now ended for the P90 ideal guitar. I might sell ones that will get less play.

    If you want one of the best P90 guitars out there, this is the one to get.

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  3. Paruwi

    Paruwi Kraut-Rocker

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    Congrats on your new Special

    :thumb::applause::thumb:
     
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    Davis Sharp Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the review. I'm not sure how to say "have fun," so I'll say bon appetit.
     
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    Paruwi Kraut-Rocker

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    sadly not available in black :naughty:
     
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    Wouldn't be the same ... :)

    Maybe you should try one color guitar, who knows, you might like it ?
     
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    Paruwi Kraut-Rocker

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    are there other colors than black :naughty::D

    dark blue burst would look nice.....
     
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    Looks like a pretty cool guitar. Agree with you on those top hat knobs, and they look junky, low grade. Not appropriate for a good guitar.

    Nickel plated Tele knobs would match your other hardware and look good on anything. I've already got them on my LP.
     
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    EWW ... I hate those and they're heavy.
     
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    This might fit the bill...
    1polished lpmm.jpg
    But you'd have to get used to the headstock!
    1lilmm.jpg ;>)/
     
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    I really like the knurled knobs on my LPMMs. I believe that they are available in metric, too.
     
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    Try chickenheads. Easy to turn and you can feel where you are without looking. Was good enough for Barney Kessel.

    https://www.jazzguitar.com/imgs/barney-kessel-ES-350_470.jpg

    Get the real-deal Dakaware with the raised ridge, and not the more-common flat top type. A Dakaware chicken head will improve your tone 11.6%.

    Full disclosure: the only place I use a chicken head is on a Varitone. I have those little black top hats on my ES-335 and don’t like them at all, I prefer the other ones with the metal ‘volume’ and ‘tone’ inserts. Just haven’t got round to changing them yet.
     
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    glad to hear the guitar is as much a winner in the sound/play dept as the looks dept.

    black would be boss!!!
     
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    Hahaha ... not really. I did on a Tele once though.
    Yes it is !

    I found top hats in a bin. Not bad.

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    3 volume, 1 tone. How's that ?
     
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    That works for my Riviera, three volumes and a master tone!
    In your case you could wire it like a Wildkat with one master volume, two individual pickup volume and a master tone![​IMG]
     
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    Could try do some blanking discs with some aluminum HVAC tape. I've never tried this (prefer my notched speed knobs) but what if you took a q-tip with some acetone fingernail polish remover after the lettering?
     
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    There are other options. ;)

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    It resonates in the mids, unplugged? Yeah, sure it does.
     
  20. BGood

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    1mm high fonts on a knob I very rarely look at from the front, doesn't deserve that much attention :) I think it's going to remain like that. or maybe get the right one from another guitar that will mind even less.
     
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