Been modifying my Casino Worn

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  1. kourre

    kourre New Member

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    I adore my Casino Worn (bought it brand new for $399, can't beat it!) but the tuners and buzzing bridge are both things to instantly swap. I picked up a pair of relic'd Kluson tuners and a Gotoh bridge, and then I also faux-relic'd the pickup covers (was gonna do a more thorough job but the covers are welded to the pickups) using an abrasive scrub from Home Depot, good enough to scratch away all the shine and leave a really nice aged look. And of course, before I even got to the parking lot after buying this thing I had the pick guard removed because I considered it both pointless and an eye sore.

    I then picked up a Frequensator tail piece because why not? What I didn't factor in is that the Casino has Bridge/pickups placement much closer to the tail end than the neck end ala Sheraton, Riviera, etc, so the high 3 strings don't have much room between leaving the Frequensator and meeting the bridge, but thankfully there's enough room to fan the strings out and situate them in the bridge grooves without any slippage.

    I also had to drill in all new holes on the bottom of the guitar for this new tailpiece. It's not pretty, but it's drilled in super tight/firm and that's all that matters! The Frequensator was old and already relic'd up, rusty screws, you name it. Exactly what I'm going for.

    At 400 dollars, I basically am treating this guitar as a project guitar to kinda mess around with and try new weird things. When trying to get the old tuners out, the metal 'rings' inside the headstock were very snug (possibly glued?) and the Kluson tuners were slightly bigger and wouldn't fit unless I could get these metal rings out, so I use the new tuner and pushed as hard as I could until it would pop out the previous metal ring. As you can see on the B-string peg, when the ring popped out it took a chunk of wood/paint with it. Oh well! To me these nicks, scrapes and dings just add to the look I'm going for, which is essentially distressed and beat up, so I didn't sweat the damage I caused while doing this little makeover.

    One last thing: The Epiphone Casino is the greatest guitar design ever, period. I am a die hard semi-hollow guy, own a number of Sherrys, a Gibson e-355, an Epi Joe Bonamassa E-355, etc.. but these cheap-o Casinos are the most fun guitars to play. And when you have a $400 beater guitar that you're not scared to get a little reckless with, it makes playing it so much more enjoyable. Can't explain it, it just feels great to play this thing. And it looks cool too, at least to me! I play some old weird/spooky post-punk meets Roy Orbison on LSD type stuff, so I wanted a guitar that looks like it was dragged out from a mausoleum.

    I highly recommend the Casino Worn. Again, no idea why it is $200 less than the standard Casino. From what I can tell there is no difference other than the finish? I love the stock pickups and have no desire to change those out, but the original tuners were a dread (I suspect the flimsy trapeze tail piece contributed to the awful tuning issues). Thankfully since I put on the new tailpiece and tuners, I haven't had to tune this thing once. And while the buzzing of the bridge wasn't being picked up on recordings, it was still a nuissance when playing unplugged. Why Epi continues to use these buzzing bridges when there are so many better options at the same price is anyone's guess.
     
  2. soulman969

    soulman969 Well-Known Member

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    Ah ha.....Epiphone traps yet another unsuspecting soul.

    I'm pleased to find at least one more of us report what appears to be more of a weld than a solder joint. I mean when you hit solder with a 2000F blue flame it should flow right? Not this stuff. Ah but I've told my tale about this before.

    Anyway, that's a great mod job you've done and I do agree with you on how unique sounding and how much fun to play a Casino is. I can better understand now how after having gotten one John Lennon seemed to have ditched his Rickenbackers for good.

    In the past few weeks I've related the story of how my buddy Neil was on a hunt for a Coupe in a natural finish mostly because an old college buddy of his in Nashvile raved about his own Coupe while I told him I preferred my full size version to a Coupe hands down.

    Although I do enjoy the smaller body and also have an ES339 with the Casino the full 335 size body just produced a bigger, fuller, richer, less compressed tone. Neil finally found a Coupe w/case in natural at Sam Ash and bought it. This past week he brought it by so he could compare it to mine.

    This weekend he bought a full size Casino and his Coupe is up for sale. I said I'd buy the case from him since it will fit my ES339. Just an hour or so of comparing them confirmed what I had said. IMHO the Coupe is more like an ES339 with dog ear P90s and a trapeze tail piece. Even the neck profiles are the same whereas the Casino has a very different profile.

    Now, in no way do I intend to demean the Coupe. I liked it too but it is not just a slight smaller version of a full size Casino. It's really more of a reconfigured ES339 without the center block. The two are quite different sounding guitars.
     
  3. Norton

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    Killer. Looks great with the frequensator!!!

    where did you find one for $399??

    I mean I thought $450 was a good deal. :rofl:
     
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    I just wish I could find one!
     
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    I'm really digging that matte black finish as when I 1st fell in love w/the Epiphone the color was matte black. I think these are very underrated and sweet sounding workhorses!!
     
  6. Space1999

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    I want the green one. I really don’t care what bridges Epi puts on their guitars, I replace them immediately anyway. Problem solved. In fact, that’s about the only thing you really have to replace anymore on new Epiphones since the Pro line.

    Pat
     
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    Definitely the coolest worn Casino I have seen in - in black at least. I just picked up an orange one - what Bridge specifically did you go with? I definitely want to replace it but don't want to order the wrong thing. Kind of curious about what tuners drop in (if those relic'd Klusens you bought did without drilling).

    Did you do something to the finish? This seems darker/richer than the blacks I've seen so far which almost seemed gray they were so flat...
     
  8. Norton

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    Epiphone has the black ones available on their website. Or at least they did a couple days ago.
    It’s Hard to get an accurate pic of the worn guitars. Super flat black…almost blue looking.
     
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    I played an olive drab one in Guitar Center over the weekend. It's a cool guitar! I prefer it over the standard MIC model which is more expensive. It really resonated acoustically. I like how the worn finish feels on the neck too.
     
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    Could someone that owns one of these and has a digital caliper measure the distance between the bridge posts? I'm shopping for bridges and want to make sure I get the right thing.

    If I take the bridge off and put my calipers on the left and right posts it looks like 74mm which I expected. If I try to do it on the bridge and measure the center of the holes it seems more like 72mm.

    Anyway it's my understanding this is usually 74mm on Casinos - just wanted to verify because my caliper is a real cheapo.
     
  11. Darkness

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    I made an extra $200 doing a side job Sunday and thought maybe I'll order one of these up. Realized they went up on price from $399 to $450 in the last month. Dang it! Not a huge jump but percentage wise thats quite a bit.
     
  12. Norton

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    I've only seen them posted at $450. from day one.
    Epiphone had them back available to sell from their website a week ago or so.
     
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    These threads really inspired me to buy the worn. Spend $450 and then $100-$200 on upgrades. One of the better deals going…
     
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    I agree. Sorry, but my Casino is on loan to a friend so I couldn’t give you the measurements.

    Might be best to have it in your hands first before you decide on a bridge anyway…:)

    And welcome to the forum, nice of you to join us.

    Pat
     

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