CoVid-19 Thread.

Discussion in 'The Backstage' started by Digger, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. Raiyn

    Raiyn Well-Known Member

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    Victoria seems to have overcome the latest outbreak whereas NSW is struggling and saying contact tracers will soon be overwhelmed. We are tightening things on our borders to try and avoid another leakage from the north and reinfection.
    Queensland has a few cases of Delta also from NSW but seems to have it under control.
     
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    The govt. is talking about paying people $300 to get their Covid vaccinations. What a silly world this is sometimes.
     
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    That's fine, if they pay $600 to those who were vaccinated between December and June.
     
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    Paruwi Kraut-Rocker

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    they should cash in from the non vaccinated covidiots....:rofl:
     
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    I don’t need to be paid for protecting those I love and myself.

    I personally think that the "vaccinated passport" excluding non vaccinated from participating in some things would be a big incentive.
     
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    Governments are becoming desperate to overcome vaccination resistance. It's a serious problem. Folks who have learned not to trust won't be easily influenced.

    The Delta variant is so contagious that fully vaccinated people can catch it and become asymptomatic carriers. This will lead to greater numbers of infection, perhaps enough to spawn another mutation? It can happen in a rich country, that's what's so scary that governments are trying to induce participation.
     
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    Welcome Bakelite2, nice to hear from you.
     
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    The tests that have been used to "detect coronavirus" are faulty, can not distinguish between flu, common cold, coronavirus, dead virus, etc, as admitted by the CDC and FDA. Since the test is faulty, there is no credible test to detect any so-called "variants", and don't worry, there are a slew of variants all lined up and ready to go. ;)

    https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/...-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

    https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...ntigen-rapid-qualitative-test-risk-false-test
     
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    RE: compensation. Neither do I, but it's unfair for the refusers to get an incentive while those of us, incentivized by doing the right thing, are ignored.

    RE: vaccine passport. While I do think that we're mollycoddling the vaccine refusers, such a strategy in the US it would prompt insurrection.
     
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    Probably, but it won’t ever happen, because we have state governors and legislatures threatening fines or cutting funding to companies and school districts that are considering them and continuing mask mandates. But when you look at the data and see the percentages of new cases shooting up in some states over 200%, you have to wonder WTF are these people thinking?
     
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    I agree on both counts. On the other hand, regarding the passports, I think businesses and venues ought to have the right to screen people in a similar fashion to checking I.D. going into a nightclub.

    Well, if I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it can all be boiled down to a couple factors:
    Toxic Individualism mixed with a social media culture that uses their algorithms to feed an individual's pre-existing social biases.

    Forget objectivity, or fact-checking, 'cause 'Murica!

    For an example, hit "Show Ignored Content" as I'm sure someone will be howling into the void.
     
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    My daughter is doing good now, she finally beat that nasty chit...
     
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    So tonight we enter our 6th hard lockdown whereas a couple of days ago we were boasting about donuts! Same old group responsible and we have some very slow learners it seems.

    This is a 7 day (at this stage) lockdown with very few reasons you can leave home. We’ve been there before over and over and I wish these people would follow the laws.

    Get the bloody injections so we can all move on!
     
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    Stats from yesterday indicate there are 6 ICU beds available in the entire state of Mississippi and 25 in Arkansas. Obviously, not all presently occupied beds are COVID patients, but there’s not much room left for any.
     
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    Out of interest, this is a link to the Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews announcing a snap lock down last night. You will see our no B/S approach to this problem and see what we’re doing, which is better than most other states.

    It’s a long clip but if you just watch a few minutes that will give you the idea.
     
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    Sounds like he's got some stones.
    Unfortunately, we have lil' Ronnie DuhSantis. A Mandarin Orange trying so hard to look like his mentor.
     
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    In a related story:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...itself-as-weirdly-defiant-as-ever/ar-AAN1GOE?

    A few passages hit home with me specifically highlighted.

    Florida or Floriduh? As it battles COVID-19 surge, the Sunshine State proves itself as weirdly defiant as ever
    Charles Passy 35 mins ago


    I spent almost two decades living in Florida and even I’m hard-pressed to pick the moment that stood out as my weirdest.


    There was the time that feral hogs roamed through my suburban neighborhood, putting a group of school kids waiting for the morning bus in jeopardy.


    Or the time an elderly driver nearly ran me off the road by accident, but still boldly asked for directions to his intended location when I stepped out of my car to inspect for possible damage.

    And let’s not forget the whole bedlam ballot of the 2000 presidential election. I covered it as a journalist and found myself standing face to face with civil-rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson, who was leading a protest. Naturally, my job was to ask him about the rumors that pop star and actress Cher might be in attendance. (Apparently, they were false.)

    All of which goes a long way to explaining that nothing surprises me when it comes to my former state, including its current COVID-19 situation.


    Florida’s case count has been increasing dramatically in recent days, with the Washington Post recently calling the state “the epicenter of a summer coronavirus spike.”

    The number of cases has risen 103% over the last 14 days to 18,120, according to the New York Times tracker. Deaths have risen 12% over the same period to 72, bringing the total number of COVID-related deaths in the state to 39,403.

    Not that other states are in such great shape. In New York, where I was born and raised and where I returned more than a decade ago, cases have risen to 150% to 2,841 over the last 14 days, and coronavirus-related deaths have increased by 67% to 9, bringing the total number of deaths due to the pandemic to 53,315.

    But while many states and cities are revisiting their pandemic restrictions, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, has defied any calls for mask mandates or shutdowns. “We can either have a free society or we can have a biomedical security state and I can tell you, Florida, we’re a free state,” he said earlier this week.

    That attitude is purely Floridian, defiant and independent. Say what you will, but the state marches to the beat of its own weird drum.


    Experts will tell you there’s plenty reason for that. Begin with the fact that Florida is very much a transient state, with plenty of non-native residents. Indeed, Florida ranks second in the nation, only behind Nevada, in terms of the percentage of non-natives.

    The newcomer population includes many seniors, who are drawn by the year-round sunshine and the fact Florida doesn’t have a state income tax. (Even Gov. DeSantis once referred to Florida as “God’s waiting room.”)

    The result is that many Florida residents don’t really have much of a connection to Florida. And by extension, they arguably don’t worry about what anyone else in the state thinks. “They care more about their home states,” says Brian Crowley, a Florida-based political consultant (and a rare native Floridian).

    The lack of community — in my own experience living there — was palpable sometimes to the point of absurdity. I used to go to Miami Marlins games (back when the team was called the Florida Marlins) and would routinely find that most of the fans in the stands were rooting for the visiting club.

    When I attended the 2003 World Series in Miami, which pitted the New York Yankees against my beloved Fish, as the Florida team is sometimes called, I nearly got doused with beer from all the Yankee-loving “Floridians” in the stands every time I cheered for the Marlins.

    There are other factors behind Florida’s weirdness (and go-it-aloneness). Some point to the relentless heat as being key. “It does make people’s tempers snap faster,” says Craig Pittman, a Florida-based writer and author of the book, “Oh, Florida!: How America’s Weirdest State Influences the Rest of the Country.” Pittman says it explains why Floridians, when pushed to the limit, reach for the nearest plate of spaghetti.

    There’s also Florida’s status as the tourist and theme park capital of the world. It’s a place where fun and make-believe are everyday reality. (I used to say that while Florida didn’t have a state income tax, it did have an equivalent in a Disney annual pass.)

    The point being that if you’re obsessed with riding rollercoasters, you may not obsess as much about wearing a mask to protect yourself against a deadly virus. “Tourism is about living for the day and doing what you want,” says Pittman.

    All I know is that life become a lot saner when I left the state and came back to New York. But it also became a lot more boring, though I’ll take boring during a global pandemic.​

    It's true, Florida (in general) has never felt like home to me. Sure, I'm a Tampa Bay Lightning fan, but that's because I became a fan after the Traitor Norm Green moved the North Stars to Dallas, and before the Wild came into the league. Anything else, and I'm rooting for a Minnesota team. As far as a sense of community, that's true too. I know a pretty good chunk of the folks in my general area (beyond neighborhood), enough to B.S. with, but it's not like folks just have open invites to cookouts (pre-pandemic), it's usually a group of friends and a few of their selected friends and that's it.

    It used to be, even when I moved down here, I could talk to someone and find common ground somewhere. Now, I'm just hearing a lot of REEEEEEE REEEEEE with no attempt at having a rational discussion. When I go back to MN, there's some folks solidly up their own arse, but even then, the bulk of them will leave you the **** alone.
     

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