DC Resistancies for GIBBY PUs

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  1. IGRocker

    IGRocker Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we could sticky this thread?

    A little copy and paste job:

    Gibson/Epiphone Pickups DC Resistance Values

    Gibson Burstbucker Pro (sim: BB1,Alnico5, potted) 7.4 KO
    Gibson Burstbucker Pro (sim: BB2, Alnico5, potted) 8.0 KO
    Gibson Burstbucker 1 (Alnico2) 7.5 KO
    Gibson Burstbucker 2 (Alnico2) 8.0 - 8.4 KO
    Gibson Burstbucker 3 (Alnico2) 8.2 - 8.8 KO
    Gibson '57 Classic (Alnico2) 7.44 - 8.5 KO
    Gibson '57 ClassicPlus (Alnico2) 9.0 - 13.8KO(the 9.0 appears to be a screw-up or faulty PU)
    Gibson Dirty Fingers (2xCeramic) 16.0 -16.6 KO
    Gibson Mini-humbucker (Alnico2) 6.0 - 6.4 KO
    Gibson 490R (Alnico2) 7.2 - 7.83 KO
    Gibson 490T (Alnico2) 7.9 - 8.53 KO
    Gibson 498T (Alnico5) 12.32-13.46 KO
    Gibson 496R (Ceramic) 8.3 - 8.63 KO
    Gibson 500T (Ceramic) 14 – 15 KO
    Gibson Angus Young (Alnico5) 13.5 KO
    Gibson Tommy Iommi (Alnico2+Ceramic) 16.5 KO
    Gibson Joe Perry(BB2&3?) (Alnico5) 8.4(neck)-8.8 KO(bridge)
    Gibson Jimmy Page (Alnico5) 7-8 KO(not found yet, but I reckon within these values)
    Gibson P-90R (Alnico5) 7.7 - 8.5 KO
    Gibson P-90T (Alnico5) 7.8 - 9.35 KO
    Gibson P-100R (Alnico5) 6.1 KO
    Gibson P-100T (Alnico5) 9.4 - 16.0 KO
    Gibson P-94R (Alnico5) 8.1 KO
    Gibson P-94T (Alnico5) 9.1 KO
    Gibson HB-R (Alnico5) 7.06 - 9.13 KO
    Gibson HB-L (Alnico5) 13.39 - 15.3 KO

    Epiphone 650R/700T (Ceramic8) 12.8(neck)-16.6(bridge) KO
    Epiphone P90(Casino) (Alnico5) 8.1 KO
    Epiphone P90('56 GT, WildKat) (Alnico5) 8.8 KO
    Epiphone 57CH(Classic) (Alnico5) 7.8 - 8.13 KO
    Epiphone HOTCH(Classic +) (Alnico5) 13.3 – 14 KO
    Epiphone HOTH8B (Alnico5) 13.14-13.58 KO
    Epiphone HB6N (Alnico5) 8.12-8.30 KO
    Epiphone Mini HB (Alnico5) 6.65 KO
    Epiphone Special2 (Ceramic) 12.85(neck)-16.6(bridge) KO
    Epiphone P100('57 LP Jr) (Alnico5) 10 KO
    Epiphone Elitist 50SR/50ST (Alnico5) 8.5 KO
    Epiphone Elitist 60ST (Alnico5) 13.8 KO
    Epiphone Elitist N.Valensi P90 (Alnico5) 8.1(neck)-9.1 KO(bridge)
    Epiphone Elitist Casino/Lennon(Alnico5) 8.1 KO
    Epiphone Elitist Country DLX (Alnico5) 5.7 KO

    EMG HZ H4 (Ceramic) 13.6 KO
    EMG HZ H4A (Alnico5) 13.6 KO

    DiMarzio SuperDistortion (Ceramic) 13.65 KO

    GFS Vintage 59 (Alnico5) Bridge 8.5-8.8 KO
    GFS Vintage 59 (Alnico5) Neck 8.0-8.2 KO
    GFS Classic II (Alnico2) Bridge 7.8 KO
    GFS Classic II (Alnico2) Neck 7.4 KO


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  2. Juke Box

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    The Classic 57 pair are A2 magnets according to the Gibson site. Gibson's store. This chart incorrectly says they are A5.
     
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  3. IGRocker

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    Good catch! It's too late for me to edit it, maybe @Paruwi could fix it?
     
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  4. Keep on Truckin'

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    What are the Dc Resistance values on the 2015 Epi Alnico Classic Pro, Alnico 5 , Neck & Bridge values- supposed to be based on the Gibson Classic57's ? Thanks
     
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  5. LtKojak

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    I know I'm late to the party, but I'd anyway like to respond for the good of the Epi collective:
    Epiphone Alnico Pro neck: 7.68K
    Epiphone Alnico Pro bridge: 8.40K - These p'ups are Alnico 2.

    No, not really. However, I think they sound better than the '57 Classics. They're clearer, specially in the neck position.
     
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  6. Raiyn

    Raiyn Well-Known Member

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    Since this is an informational thread, and we're already listing Dimarzio and GFS in a "Gibby" pickup thread...let's really jump the tracks and post values of stuff we have.

    I guess I'll start with what I have in my G400:

    Carvin S22J {neck}: (11 pole pieces per coil, Alnico 5 magnet, metal cover) 7.6K Ω

    Carvin S22B {bridge}: (11 pole pieces per coil, Alnico 5 magnet, metal cover) 13.3K Ω

    In my partscaster I have:

    Carvin AP11 / AP11R: (11 pole pieces, Ceramic magnet) 4.3K - 4.4K Ω

    Prior to the AP11's I had:

    Dragonfire Crusader Single coils (Big hex bolt pole pieces, dual ceramic "refrigerator" magnet sticks) ≈5.6K Ω
     
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  7. Fullmoon 1971

    Fullmoon 1971 Well-Known Member

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    Over the last couple of years my son and I have wanted to make our own pickups and have gained quite a lot of information on various pickup makes not just Gibson (PRS, Fender Gretsch, Rockfield) from various sources, Gibson's legacy site, other pickup makers from around the world, guitar techs and even a gibson sales rep. Last year with lockdown we were able to start putting theory into practice. these notes certainly put you in the right ballpark (only tension data is missing). I can honestly say that the models we made (Super 74's, 59 Tribute's, 61 Tributes & 496R/500T combo) sounded virtually identical when placed into the guitar the offical versions were from.

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    Now that we know roughly what we are doing we are branching and just using our records to inspire us to try and create our own range of pickups
     
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  8. Biddlin

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    I don't usually get into retroposts, but I feel strongly that DCΩ tell very little about the pickup's qualities. These kinds of charts are handy but pickups are a lot more than the number of turns of wire.
     
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  9. Raiyn

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    Ye Gods! Has it really been 3 years? I mean I know last year doesn't technically count, but still :eek:
    Agreed, but it gives a guy something to look at when mulling a purchase. Also, the ol' RadioShack 22-812 doesn't measure Henrys. :cheers:
     
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  10. Biddlin

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    Weirdly my "DirtyFingers" is one of the best clean pick-up I've ever used. As good as my 57s. I knew that volume knob was there for some reason. :rofl:
     
  11. The Convert

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    I never understood why some people get bent out of shape for resurrecting threads. If it's valid, I think it's better than creating a new thread and being told to go look at the old one.

    As for pickups and impedance, sure it's imperfect, but within pickup families, they can be pretty good indicators (like the group of 1-3 Burstbuckers). But yeah, watching Trogly take measurements on every pickup is maybe not so helpful. For me it's like, for a HB, <8 is probably weak, <11 is overwound PAF territory, and >=11 is modern high gain. Probably. But comparing a Dimarzio 8.20 vs a SD 9.45...I don't think one can even be sure that the SD would be hotter.

    But what else would I be talking about? :)
     
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  12. Raiyn

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    I was quasi-sarcastically replying to @Biddlin ... Wow, nobody has a sense of humor today.
    Can't even joke about the passing of time or the fact that it feels like we've lost a year...
     
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  13. The Convert

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    Hey dude-no...not directed at you.

    Just what you wrote just reminded me about reactions to bringing back old threads since there have been threads.

    Seems like it's either:

    How dare you post to an old thread, dum dum.

    or

    How couldn't you see your question was answered on a thread nine years ago, dum dum!

    Like I said, I don't get it. BUT, I did get your commentary.

    Happy day.
     
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  14. Biddlin

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    It's a sad and diluted day when you reply to me just quasi-sarcastically!:naughty: :cheers:
     
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  15. Biddlin

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    BTW I just did a volume test of my Dirtyfingers (FUEGO), Epi alnico classics (HOT) 490s (MILD) 57 classics (VERY MILD) straight through my HOTONE Purple Wind all knobs set to 10.
    Alnico Classics and Dirty Fingers are real close loudness wise, but the Dirtyfingers were perhaps a bit more articulate. 490s were a third place noise maker with 57 classics quite a bit quieter, still.
     
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    In all seriousness:


    Who gives a flying shag?
     
  17. Raiyn

    Raiyn Well-Known Member

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    True. :cheers:

    A guy has to have a little fun - especially these days. :eek:

    It's cool.

    I tend to be more in the former camp. People dig up threads from years ago replying to the O.P. (who usually buggered off immediately after posting) asking something that was covered in the thread (or offering to buy the subject of the post).

    If I had my druthers I'd like to see someone start fresh on a topic not covered by an active thread. Sometimes things change - someone figured out a different way to do something, or found a new vendor, etc.

    Stuff like: "Hey TinyTimRox69, what strings do you use? I have a Pequot baritone uke that I slather in coconut oil mixed with imported Hawaiian seagull poo and leave in the sun to make it more authentic" drives me bananas. Especially when the guy they're talking to has like 5 posts, hasn't been on EpiTalk since the first term of the Obama administration, and was originally asking about pickup heights or something.
     
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    Wow, can’t believe I posted this nearly 5 years ago. I should’ve proof read it better!
     
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    59 Epi LP (with Gibson pickups)
    Neck burstbucker 2 reads 8.39
    Bridge burstbucker 3 reads 8.01
     
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