If you all thought I was bad, what do you think about this?

Discussion in 'Other Guitars' started by Zero, Aug 27, 2021.

  1. Zero

    Zero Well-Known Member

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    I may rough up my finish, but Les Pauls are made to take it!
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    But at least it has P90s.....:rofl:
     
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    Weren't all of those modifications done by Les himself?
     
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    Not so sure about that neck pickup. Maybe it was a P90 at some point.
     
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    they were.
    here is a video about the guitar in question
     
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    Work in progress ... it's a tool.
     
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    Les paul did tons of stupid shit to guitars.

    just because he did it doesn’t make it cool. At least, not in my book.
     
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    'Stupid shit' to you may = exactly what he needed and wanted and didn't really care if anyone thought it was cool or not.
     
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    I can already see where this is going. I'm out. Not gonna be a part of more childish BS on yet another one of Zero's threads. :io:
     
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    Exactly. To what he wanted to do Les needed what didn't exist so he created it himself.

    Need humbucking pickups in '52? No problem. Just add dummy coils to the single coil pickups he did have.

    Need more sustain? Build a bridge that will provide it.

    Need specialized high and low impedance electronics? OK, install a transformer.

    So much of what was later taken for granted came about as a result of Les Paul's desire to create the kind of music he wanted to create and he built the tools he needed to do that. We have much of what we have now because of Les Paul.
     
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    You'd be far better off and thought to be more perceptive if you appreciated the genius that went into what he did and why he did it then to knock the appearance or the reasoning behind it. Read and learn.

    It had nothing to do with making anything "cool" from your perspective and everything to do with making it more functional from his. A whole lot of what he developed is used on guitars and in studios now.
     
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    The video lays it all out. Single coil pickups using dummy coils to create humbuckers so he could eliminate the hum for recording.

    The neck pickup looks like a DeArmond or something similar so he needed to drill holes in the cover for the magnet slugs.

    We can just call it Rhubarb Red's red neck engineering.....LOL.
     
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    Soulman969, Would it be acceptable to you if I started by reading biographies about Les Paul the person and then continue with books on his personal guitars???

    And would it be ok to start doing that continuously since say 1989???

    Les Paul did stupid shit to his guitars. Doesn't make him stupid. I've done stupid shit to guitars... I'll continue to do stupid shit to guitars but I can still count to 100, know my colors and my abc's!! :rofl:

    I don't have a problem with Les Paul's endless tinkering... but You shouldn't have a problem with me thinking some of his tinkering was stupid.

    I guarantee Les Paul thought some of the shit he did to his guitars was stupid too. But the only way to find out if something is gonna work is to try it out.:cheers:
     
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    There was a purpose behind all of it. It wasn't just something he did like you or I might do just messin' around. All of what he did was to create what he needed that didn't exist in the early '50s and most of it was pretty ingenious.

    Les had a sense of humor so I don't think it would have bothered him one bit for some folks to think his endless tinkering was silly or stupid. My point was that I don't believe he thought of it that way himself. It all had its purpose.

    If you believe that some of it was stupid you can have that opinion. It just came out sounding more narrow minded and judgmental in your previous post than here. Thanks for clearing it up. :cheers:
     
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    If it was anyone but Les himself doing it, y'all would be out for his head.

    This (apparently) was Mr. Paul's "try some ish" axe. The fact that it's an original 50's model (let's not get pedantic) that was modded is offset by the fact that the guy who did all the "hacking" is the guy who's name is literally on the headstock.
     
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    Les was the first. )

    without them there would be no Boeing, Airbus, Lockheed. etc.
    What are you about ...
     
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    Les was one of many… contemporaneous experimenters…..he’s just the most well known.

    And I’d completely expect his experiments had a purpose. He wasn’t gentle or precious with his guitars…and that’s totally cool.

    He sure didn’t improve the guitar in this post.
     
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    Yes, was one of many…
     
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